its hard to run such a business so i hope cgtrader will survive in the future. A few months went by with my models offline and during that time my GCt sales gradually went up at a level consistent with the few sales I had left behind on Ts so I just deleted all my models at Ts. And it is convenient for the buyer and profitable for the seller. We will rather stick with cgtrader and know our models are safe, although the issue with finding CG models on the site is a little problem, but as long as they stay honest well be supporting them rather than supporting a bunch of thiefs and if we need to up our prices then so be it. I imagine a totally different mentality is going on in the Ts room, where top talents probably just like to leave the building because a few individuals like to keep things in check (you know like in the old top down pyramidal structured way). Is it fair if I do? I have been studying their website from a buyers perspective thoroughly and I have noticed that; 1. No overt similarites in armor designs, guns, vehicles, naming- nothing. We left TS account and getting occasional spam regarding the prices from them. Yes, CG Trader is the best now some bugs should be solved. If you're searching for a regular model, you have to click on the little icon "CG models", but nothing changes on the page when you do so. Based on those traffic stats CGtrader would clearly benefit from more advertisement out there. --GENERAL--. Luckily, non of my sells on TS were refunded so far and i had 3 refunds on CGT, 2 of them was caused by technical reasons from CGT side. and we lived the evolution of Turbosquid from being a pioneer of the 3D assets market working alongside the real content developers to become a typical corporation with financial backing from angel investors that only cares about financial results and is trying to strive the 3D market towards a monopoly where they can control both the producers and the customers, where acting as just a middleman gets Turbosquid the most profit from both. No matter how many 3D models you need, we'll take care of it. Every freelancer is corporation of it's own. (I prefer not to learn/spent time to handle all the different 3D applications and conversions) Send of two customers so far (here on CGt), hoe asked for a maya version of this model. But at the same time they require all rights to the model, and the model is removed from sale at all sites. Renderosity. So if I am looking after regular CG models, afters a few minutes search, my logical choice is not to search on CGTrader but rather on "old-fashioned" sites. Maybe some people don't want to bother about different programs compatibility, while others don't mind to spent time configuring things in different applications. Looks to me like they are providing a very content creator friendly environment. I am hoping that never happens Exnihilum! (Edge loops, quad poly, simple overall structure) Full Rigged with over 30 facial blendshapes and 20+ skin morph targets in order to produce better rig quality and remove some joints issues such as overlaped knees, stretched hips, etc. Think about the best online stores today when people search for lamps on Amazon they will only find lamps in their search and that is why they keep buying on Amazon because it is a highly efficient and professional site where the buyers don't get lost or frustrated looking for what they want and can spend their time searching for the best quality product based on their budget. How about Negotiated price? Open a Support Ticket, Licensing questions?Contact your Shutterstock Customer Success Manager. What? I also think, as iterateCGI, the market control based on exclusivity will soon disappear. Sure you get a lot more income from The3Dstudio. "that is where the big money can be", being able to part with an invention has value. So what's needed? This is new era, time of old fashioned corporatism is going to be over. If I narrow to "man", it's even worse : 64 out of 128 models displayed are scanned 3d models. @dafunk @S/C. I know I personally would be Heh.. that's another topic but my top selling model is nude. I stumbled across the same issues! Personally, I will never sign up to exclusive contracts, others should always get chances to maybe offer better job if they can. Sales dropped to almost nothing. There are indeed some snags in data management and the sorting out system. (I'm aware this involves many aspects)
You can upload a 20 mb large model here with 3 formats, 20 photos, 100 wording text, 20 tags in around 20 minutes. Work directly with a 3D artist for your project. What I eventually hope to have is a healthy fair open market place, where collaboration , communication, people empowerment and evolution prevails over control systems, central power structures, monopolistic thinking, and maintaining of a status qou. So part of the problem would probably be solved if a buyer would indeed get reputation points for buying models and gain more access in the process. Buyers tend to look for things based on the category and budget and like to be able to put two products side by side to compare them and get a better understanding of why one is better than the other or which product is more suitable for them as an individual. I'm really happy to see CGTrader growing. My friend didn't get any support. We've been there, even being "Squid Guild exclusive" for some time to test the experience ourselves for real, and after more than 10 years with all our experiences and stats in hand we can state without a doubt that the business model offered by Turbosquid doesn't pay off in the mid-long term. Turbosquid just has it backwards. My initial idea was that Ts had some clients that do not know anything outside of Ts. This would allow genuine potential buyers to check the quality of models. But if you are on Turbosquid as an exclusive sale (models will be sold only on the website TurboSquid), Cgtrader can lose and this position, in favor of TS For example, I ran into this this morning. - Do you prefer to do business with companies that takes the most profit from your products in exchange for a short-term higher revenue? For me CGTrader is the best and CGTrader has the best structure of a 3d site !!! This concept is not new and it seems to work well over here (http://market.envato.com/) I understand CGtrader's management don't want to bet on one horse but it probable lives the two horses crippled in this case. still turbosquid has the most paying clients. This is from my own personal experience. Thanks for sharing Your experience and thoughts. That is very strong argument in favor of CGT, but then again, don't you think that corporate client would rather choose to get support from team of profesionals that are available 24/7, than from unknown person, who might respond with big delay or not respon at all? I don't know how reputation points work for sellers, they may work fine if you're an actual modeler, but for end-users it's just a dead-end. So many more buyers would actually have a look at what they have because sometimes you want to buy a special toy - Explaining on a personal basis to certain designers, even under banning threat, that creating very basic objects afters tutorials and selling them for 10$ with comments like : "my best model ever" will only hamper CGTrader credibility ; also that taking a poser or DAZ model, posing it (or even rigging it) in another software and adding a few details to it is still an obvious copyright infringements, if not a simple steal What's lacking? But i think CGT nows that pretty well, that's why they decided to bring changes in royalty policy and hopefully they will steer additional cash flow towards making this stock market more attractive to the buyers. Money in short term does not always pay of in long run. Maybe they have a much deeper interaction with the clients? 3dsky.org2. Bangalore Escort Once that happens it is goodbye Turbosquid and hello big bucks for all of us at CGtrader. @Urecky, while i'm agree with you in general, let me argue on some specific points. We need to broaden our spectrum and clientele if we want to make more money. Having a direct link/communication is also critical in detecting possible needs and potential new business. Advertising? By registering you confirm that you have read and accept ourTerms of Use. Selling 3D models on Ebay or Amazon would probably generate problems? And reasons can be any. I'm suggesting a collective of store owners. i think they both have there place . Same with copyright infringements, same with low quality models (a friend of mine bought recently a model here, which was supposed to be .OBJ compatible : but the seller had just exported the obj from its original program, without even editing the mtl file to have the textures loaded automatically ! The problem is that the site is not able to get a clear separation between CG and 3D printing. TS removes this rating. (e.g. Because of its design and trade/royalty system, CGTrader seems better and more advantageous, but at the end of the day, I get much more income from Turbosquid and The3Dstudio. Basically, they continue to sell their previous models or are selling non-liquid assets. Show more, By subscribing you confirm that you have read and accept ourTerms of Use, max, fbx, blend, uasset, tbscene and more, obj, fbx, unitypackage, prefab, mat and more. Cgtrader cannot compare to certain 3d markets. The clients like to waste money for a more expensive model at TSquid, perhaps knowing that the artist will get shafted with a measly 40% return, and that's that. Then came price guarantee on Ts and now I had a problem, the part I was now successfully serving on CGt I would not want to risk losing back to Ts, nor would I want to lose those few that kept buying my higher priced models there. Hell, I even remember writing years ago to Matt Wisdom (TS Founder & CEO), Beau Perschall (VP of Business Dev) and other people at the management staff about the "no-brainer" choice for sellers regarding going exclusive into the "Squid Guild" or not, because after a group of sellers collected our stats and compared our earnings (for similar periods of time being exclusive and not) all of us ended with the clear conclusion that we were losing revenue being exclusive to TS instead of selling in all markets no single answer was received from any TS management staff member. I don't know how reputation points work for sellers, they may work fine if you're an actual modeler, but for end-users it's just a dead-end. You can just buy and return it if it is not to your satisfaction. This use is prohibited if the virtual world-type is an open MMO, like Second Life. Determining the optimal cost of the models is an important and difficult moment. I had a conversation with Eduardas he confirmed that they will improve the feedback system. Don't forget those young people are going to shape the future of this market and if we want to have a flourishing market then we need lots of well trained people in it. In that case on CGTrader buyer can contact seller directly and ask him/her to fix the issue. However, fear of losing sales kept me both on Ts and CGt for long time (not liked it). Similar thing happened to me,that's why i'm at CGtrader full time now. I am new starter here. They just took multiple of my most expensive items and run for it. We all agree that CGT is the better site and needs to win the fight but we all need to reach out to the really influential people and make sure they start promoting the site or we won't win. Fine details have been sculpted on the model down to pores and fine lines on the face and body. I agree with the last post, searching for models should not be a pain. I think posting links to showcase your model in an animation or to show how a rig works is extremely advantageous. I'm just an end-user, one of the people you guys sell to, and the site is a large part of the issue, in multiple ways. Searching for specific terms applying to a specific model, the results on Google are nearly on first page. Answer (1 of 7): I'm a CGtrader member for almost two years now and in my opinion it is the best platform for stock media developers available today. A: TurboS*swearword-here* will start to DOWNTICK PRICES to match them to "other selling sites" on customer complaint, so I will remove every model they demand for down-adjustment, and I'm sure I won't be alone in this. When I asked why they don' want pay for that they have suspended my products ( 428) products they did not say anything after. there is low quality traffic on cgtrader and also became too much focused on 3d printing models so gets affordable if u have many low quality printable models of cheap prices. I'm probably leaving this site for good, but it won't be because of you guys - it's because of the site itself. That's what I'm saying all the time and what I didn't like because I was not selling models for 3d printing and reason why I left. On the other hand, reason for refund should be solid. I removed the download limit until we update the protection so that buyers can download much larger quantities of free models. What makes Cg-trader better than Turbosquid? If I compare him with the founder of Ts, then it becomes clear to me we have a completely different relationship. By registering you confirm that you have read and accept ourTerms of Use, Rigged 3D models are your best choice when you need a character or object to perform unique movements.
On the other side, CGtrader empowers the real content creators, giving them all kind of freedom regarding their products and image, and encouraging communication between customers and content creators. Apart from this it would be nice to have a system that promotes collaborative action to make the products themselves better. Ts would probably just pull up the royalty's and change policy if it stats feeling uncomfortable, but it would not change what is in memory. Lots of people buy posters to print and put on their walls especially students. patna Escorts Service Hi adentonclark,
They will be very enlightening and useful to you especially if you have never built 3D models and don't know what to expect. Another thing that drove me crazy about Turbosquid was how you couldn't promote any of your social media and it made it very difficult to get your clients from let's say Facebook and Twitter to notice your artwork. I have always been amazed at how TS can pull off their selling stunt, I've got better stuff AND cheaper on here than on TS but the sales over there totally dominate. Batman (Rig) for Maya 10. . It takes way too long to put up any files. After that response I selected all my models and took them offline. Typically, large corporate buyers, they find a way to contact me even and on TS and make an offer on a specific project. It's true. Also, trying to find an item that I already saw through the search is near impossible. A good platform should integrate all next gen communication technologies in order to support curent evolution and technological progress. You don't even seem to get reputation points for purchasing items, assuming I've read the page correctly, and if that is the case it's just dumb. See this GFXHub where you needed to pay a fee before you could download 3d models of Humster3d, Turbosquid and many other. We at NoneCg think that both CGtrader and Sellers will benefit from the exact opposite policy. The conclusion seems, that clients are either more familiar with Tsquid, or that TSquid offers something else that is so valuable that even a much lower price doesn't matter. They lie about your rights on Turbosquid. TurboSquid Member Services, I'm a first time seller (+-2 Months). But we forgot about the buyers. Plus, if you express constructive ideas on the forums, you know you'll get listened to. Even when Ts would sell more models it does not mean they serve you well, because it is not. Cgtrader better sell my shoes here than ts.plus webmoney plus royalty rate. CGt embraces all modern communication technologies which is critical to establish such a place. (so you basically pay for a fraud protection system for people hoe sell themselves out exclusively). (just playing with ideas here)
Sketchfab.com-------------------------------. and it's not a check-out, it's simply a gift. The basic approach would be that every user start with a selection of a store template (including own label option and menu creation capability's) and starts filling his store with own products and products found in the large collective database. I experienced this on other topics like the challenges, where CGT team took some ideas into consideration and applied some of them. I'm done with them. Some may post their old stuff they just don't want to ask money for, consequentially it is also not representative of the work they currently do. Change Method. The "crap models", "under-priced models" issue is a very sensitive topic that should be discussed. It's like if shapeways.com will start selling classic "cg" models. ;), My thoughts exactly.. 3d Printing could be very profitable (for CG Trader, and the modelers) But Also Turbosquid actively promotes models on their site with the use o. I don't know if Turbo Squid allows licence ownership to be transferred as i never got that far with them. If CGT would manage to draw more buyers from TS then even more sellers would migrate here. A rig is like a skeleton of a 3D model, which lets you move and pose it with little effort. If you manage to get lots of buyers on there you could make a real fortune. If that is the case then better not to become exclusive! You must create a huge hype and create things that are unique and that connect with people. Often offer to buy the models in 1020 times more expensive than the price at which the model was exhibited for sale. just share your links (: I like both but prefer cgtrader all day. What I read on different forums seems obvious, exclusivity no longer pays. So click on a category. with the recent requirements to upload a 3D product on TS, CGT became my number one no doubt, i'm not gonna wast half my life rendering turntables that wouldn't make much of a difference when every seller is doing the same thing. User experience and User interface is much better to manage your store, and higher royalty. Ts just took royalty's from other items I've sold to get the money back. The next thing CGT needs to do is get in with Ebay, Amazon, walmart etc places where everyone buys not just 3D enthusiasts and that regular people trust with their money. It might be a good idea to see what the customer experience is with various market places by making an experimental purchase at each and seeing who has the most effective methods of enticing return visits and encouraging word-of-mouth bumps. You have to choose a category to get a refresh. Everything we do is going on between people, we are all in this together, none of us is separate now matter how hard we would like to think so. The reason the model is sold at low price .some models have so many other sellers which can lose models value . So the staff there tries to work There are very few modelers out there who can actually support themselves financially doing this and whenever one of us sells anything it is a little like winning the lottery. (Edge loops, quad poly, simple overall structure) Full Rigged with over 30 facial blendshapes and 20+ skin morph targets in order to produce better rig quality and remove some joints issues such as overlaped knees, stretched hips, etc. I think CG Trader should remain working with printing, however, it's main concern should be CG :D, I would opt for a system that integrates different stores each with its own label/trademark placed under one common trademark (for sake of organization and readability), CGtraders main trademark would then function as a placeholder/main hub for many different sub stores. Rigged models are great for art projects, games, movies or VR experiences, because they save a lot of development time. Also could you elaborate on the search and going backwards issue? TurboSquid is not a company that practices any kind of #FairBusiness, and there is many other cases from other people stating the same for different reasons:
A good ref point is that your average laptop with Dual Pentium 2 gigahertz processor 8 GB of ram will start having issues when running over 200,000 polygons. If you are doing really bad with sales they let you do whatever you want but if you are doing well they step in and make things difficult. I hope it goes well for cgtrader i really like this page :-). I think these are questions that every 3D content creators must honestly answer for themselves. Marius knows this very well as he (whenever he can) communicates whit us. It still remains a puzzle to me, were those few now actually using their CGt account because there was no other way or did I just lose those and just gained some new clients from somewhere ells?