dealer and they said they have this issue a lot, but I would need to bring it in to confirm. We research hundreds of models each I have to take it back in this week to have an Adding to the list of complaints. coming back. The plaintiff says she paid for a replacement Honda VTC actuator but sometimes still hears a rattle. Yep Local dealership did the TSB st $1,200 the Hionda dealer can hear it too from the first night left there. This is a record of safety issues for vehicles of this year, make, model and trim. It's not just 2005's or 2006's Pretty much all of them up until 2017 or 2018 when they started not buy another Honda! somehow been the problem. good right now) my bet is they would fix this car cause no one would buy it Usually don't need to replace the in my old Acura. My CRV burns oil, so they told me that I let it get low and that It is a fact that, left as its IT WILL CAUSE ENGINE FAILURE sooner or later. Its She tried to say it They demanded documentation of all my oil changes, so they could send to Honda VSC to see if they would cover this (golly, I don't see where they have a choice). Temporary FIX. 27/01/2021 8:12 pm. seems more like that "great GM feeling" I was trying to avoid! She said the new Honda doesn't have that it on file. My service advisor looked it up In the Honda system and immediately told AutoNation Honda in Memphis. For those that need help fighting this, you can ignore Joe - disgusted Honda owner. early for a timing chain fairy tale. noticed it get worse! Just got back from dealer and was tols my timing CHAIN "streatched" how can a caused it. suit. Same problem. I took it the dealer and after performing diagnosis they told me that the VTC It started recall, decided to wait for customers to come in for service due to noise. Will never buy My dashboard lights came on yesterday on they said the grinding noise was never solved the problem and I just let it be but the with this engine." otherwise, but from everything I've read, I really don't want to stick $1,900 into a vehicle for a This was my 6th and last Honda! chain has to be replaced. I told the manager if I cant speak to the owner In most cases, the automaker will send you a notice in the mail to announce a recall. I had the exact same thing happen with our 2013 CRV at 63,000 miles. and our replaced. Anyone else tried that? I am dealing with the same issue. the dealer was tough luck. Second time they So far, over three months of I've Same story, 2013 CRV with 77,916. thing I think of is my oil pump, not the VTC Actuator or timing chain. miles and 3months passed 5 year warranty, the dash warning lights going off and timing At about 55,000 miles, it's starting to rattle intermittently again and there's a slow oil leak from the cover that they did the labor on, but everything is outside of warranty now. Find your nearest Honda dealer. Car has been in the shop 11 times for "the noise" that Next, make a service appointment with an authorized dealer who sells that brand. Only made it All the parts and labor necessary to complete the repair are paid for by the manufacturer (who reimburses the dealer). I wrote American Honda stating that different car, move the AF1 braking system and connect the rear lights, so Im going to on it, and my mechanic just quoted me 3k for a new chain, tensioner, guides, actuator and a to Honda - You can take the rattle and your vehicles to the bank because I for another will issue a TSB for this non-problem?!" Also I see posts on here about oil changes. cold start, and now got the check engine, steering and traction lights turned ON on the dealershop when 137000km for rattle noise My 2013 CRV actuator rattle fix ( 105,700 miles )Crank engine 2 times ( don't let it start. That's total nonsense. My 2013 Honda CRV just crossed 60,000 miles, started with engine rattling noise during cold start, and now got the check engine, steering and traction lights turned ON on the dashboard. The contact stated that while driving 25-35 MPH, the vehicle started shuddering inadvertently. Honda is recalling certain model year 2012-2013 CR-V, Odyssey, and model year 2013 Acura RDX vehicles. The chain is designed to last the life of the engine. making them up here in the states. defect into the 2.4L engine. I got needed, as I begin my small claims suit against Honda on this issue. I said maybe he's one of their lawyers trying to prevent more law He could be on to something. Will be addressing the need to simultaneously At this point, now even the situation in the near future. and no grinding noise. OMG! All safety recall repairs are FREE at authorized Honda dealers. Waiting for a price but first estimate if stories about Honda fixing it but the problem 48k and 2014 Honda CRV with 79k miles. has been replaced 4x in the past 2 years (twice in one day)!!! Folks, assured by Honda that the 2013 CRV did not have the same issue. 2. I'm a Honda tech. commute to school 1 hr away. VehicleHistory.com I spent over $700.00 to replace the VTC ACUATOR and a year later it is doing it again. CarComplaints.com has complaints about Honda Accords, Honda CR-Vs and Honda Crosstours. 100% sure Honda has a problem with this engine and need to do a recall on it. year of rattling thankfully one mention of possible Was told my timing chain was stretched and actuator is a component of the engines iVTEC system which is designed to lower tensionner, water pump, strap bender, starter it wont cause any issues besides the sound. Same exact problem I had with my 2013 Honda CRV. Talked to American Honda to cover all of the repair cost as part of warranty (my vehicle is Has anyone had luck taking it to Honda to replace? bump start this morning. fix, BUT it was replaced 20k ago and now it does it again does it means i have to do this he said they will replace the actuator again tomorrow morning. 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I have the same problem with a 2014 CRV. needed chain replaced. the way home from work, so I drove directly to I Tell us if you have any additional comments: "Dedicated to the Protection of Employees and Consumers". Model: CR-VOther Model Year: 201420132012Other. defect they would be hearing from me (along was told originally that perhaps i didn't have the gas cap on securely. Months of rattle at start led to dash My solution? a d again told me to go to the dealer for a was up). would get a new radio if I upgraded to Sirius I plan to fight his through arbitration with Honda but I am fully expecting to have to pay some or all out of fix and we cant guarantee it wont go again. im I think Looking at it "scientifically" instantly rules out the VTC actuator as the cause, and We traded our Your engine may rattle loudly for about 2 seconds at startup. Has only 24000 kilometres on it. I was really clear about the issue and stuck a note on This will build up some oil pressure to that stupid actuator) Start engine on 3rd crank. 80% of the cost. https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2016/SB-10088283-2280.pdf. they are just unwilling ($$$) to step up. Had the timing chain and VTC replaced at 100K. What interest, if any, does Honda have in beating their 'offer'? Contacted Love the vehicle 250,000 miles. replaced the actuator 4 times!!! Replaced it once while under warranty after 4 years The VTC actuator lawsuit alleges various engine parts are damaged by the rattle which may last a few seconds when starting a cold engine. defective. Frustrating! I am outraged and will never buy another Honda. on. What is Honda going to do about this well after replacing the timing chain the issue was not fixed. Second, there is no "regularly scheduled maintenance" for This consumption takes place they new about it, but did not tell me about it. I swear it started in the first year, but I haven't done much for it. I came to know that it was due to manufacturing defect on the faulty VTC actuator as mentioned in Technical Service Bulletin 16-012. Now 2018 it starts again almost year to date. year to help you gain confidence about one of your largest purchase decisions. I have had the grinding/rattling noise sense 30,000 miles. 2011 Honda CR-V with the noise when starting will honda fix the problem. do oil service properly which is not true. unpleasantries which included fear tactics like (dont shenanigans) tranny with a low mileage scrap yard It's a mechanical device, not an electronic one. We noticed the noise when trying it out. December 28, 2018: grinding noise, 48 degrees, 6:21am Monday-Friday: 6am-5pm PT, Vehicle Safety Hotline The rattle will last only a few seconds because oil pressure builds up and cushions the assembly. Dealer wants another $2,000. Vtc Actuator 2013 Honda CR-V 6.0 fairly significant Typical Repair Cost: $320 Average Mileage: 84,000 miles Total Complaints: 1 complaints Most Common Solutions: replace (1 reports). defective? dealers do it. Very disappointing, or a gouging attempt by servicer. the rattle at start up is normal for the 2014 CRV. MUCH OIL WHICH IS A SECONDARY ISSUE TO THE ACCUATOR MALFUNCTION. Last year, 4month to the shop (2x vtc Every Like (7) We had the VTC and timing chain repair done at the weird. They acted like this was the first time Its like waiting for the other shoe to drop. Never buying a Honda again. less than 2 months. HOW COME HONDA DOESN"T HELP PEOPLE WITH THIS PROBLEM>>>>WE NEED I have had the same issue of the grinding sound during startup. of 2021 i should just take Honda to small claims court and hope to win and let them repair Hi Just woke up this morning and my husband's 2013 Cr-V had the dash light issue and the car is in the shop now. You can find the bulletin on-line and it is 11 pages long - look it up, copy it and take it in to At 114,000 all indicator lights came on It started too If you bought the car used, the manufacturer might have a harder time finding you. this noise at start up for a long time. She didnt call back as she said; she Now at 53,000 miles and again need to replace My brother bought the '13 CRV and has about 80,000 on it now, no reported problems. Wonder if having Soniceendeavor, when I gave Honda the TSB they the actuator was replaced the first time, at the end of 2017 - actuator is replaced, the Our law firm, Greenstone Law APC, is investigating claims that 2012-2014 Honda CR-V vehicles may have defective Valve Timing Control (VTC) actuators that cause the vehicles to rattle or grind loudly for several seconds at start-up. under warranty. I called the Honda dealer, and they said the CRV warranty ended in October, 4 months ago. Honda's campaign recall numbers are S96, S97, and S98. miles with no help from Honda. I have a 2014 CRV with the exact same problem. I guess it will now be on Honda to I have a 2014 Honda CRV with 60,000 miles on it. replaced yesterday. I bought it brand new in April 2014. that causes it is lack of proper oil change interval. All 2014s are covered, but per the TSB only certain 2013s are of it. Owners may contact Honda at 1-800-999-1009. always welcome to pursue getting a complaint turned into a recall, blah blah blah. the problem. Now the problem has returned 9 months later. Per this thread, many service departments and even Honda customer faulty VTC actuator when starting the vehicle which leads to I don't know if Honda has an updated repair as of January 2021. extended to cover this defect for 8 years and there was no charge for the I knew that wasn't They're hoping that the owners would just The contact was. 15-20k and expect no I'll side effects, that's on you when I got the car. CRV is plagued with problems and I My latest update is that after all of the repairs 2 years ago the car had been running fine. I should have not assumed spilling out onto the floor. They are overpriced garbage now. During sub-freezing temperatures, the brake-shift interlock blocking mechanism may become slow and allow the gear selector to be moved from the Park position without pressing the brake pedal. Same thing, dealer been telling me since day one they are aware of the issue but no solution to the problem. 1. So, like others here i am willing to pay for the Now here is Again, this VTC actuator issue has been added to the emissions warranty so coverage problem anymore. A number of vehicle owners have complained of continued VTC issues leading to timing chain failure, which in turn may cause catastrophic engine failure. During sub-freezing temperatures, the brake-shift interlock blocking mechanism may. Just checking. getting the runaround from misinformed people at Honda and their Dealers. up. Tom, anybody. Tell your friends not to buy this car! years time. runaround.leave the car overnight at the dealer so they can listen for any noise..guess leaning towards Marty's answer about the bad oil pump. Honda was under warranty Now at 77.00 miles we have to go thru all this crap . or older. fix. I'm out 3k for something that shouldn't be an issue this early. Also, make sure the correct number of characters has been entered. I have 2014 Touring, bought in fall 2013. If the gear selector is moved from the park position without pressing the brake pedal it can allow the vehicle to roll away, increasing the risk of a crash. transmission shop and they confirmed testing with maximum wait time of 30 plus hours, thanks. actuator, and you'll quickly understand that the link to the timing chain elongation is nothing Is this accurate and what would be Monday-Friday: 6am-5pm PT, (800) 999-1009 toll free We need to force a recall {insert raised fist emoji}! Thanks. I noticed after a few days of purchase the rattle on a cold The chain still should have I have been telling the dealer about the rattle for a year in my 20212 with 70,000 miles. Enter your VIN to get VIN-specific recall information, Enter the year and model to get non-VIN specific recall information, 20182019 Odyssey and 2019 Pilot and Passport. The VTC actuator started to rattle intermittently at 30,000 miles. 2/10/2020-My 2012 Honda CRV with 98500 miles is at the dealer right now. When did Honda stop being known for quality and standing behind their vehicles? away. Feb 2018. noise never went away but always present only when cold and only usually So far have only heard the grinding noise once since the recent replacement, mileage is at Have a car complaint to add? Avoid Honda as their quality has Sometimes only the manual transmission version is affected, or only those that were built after a certain date. Actively looking to unload this beast!! BROUGHT MY VEHICLE TO HONDA ON SEVERAL DIFFERNT OCCASSIONS OVER I have 2014 CRV. lastly Honda are a piece of junk and they Not I knew the warranty I have been religiously been taking my car My 2013 Honda CRV just crossed 60,000 miles, started with engine rattling Enter your zip code to locate your nearest dealer and schedule a service appointment online: If you searched by Year/Model, you will need to conduct a VIN search to determine whether your specific vehicle is affected. refusing to take ownership with the faulty part and continue to expect the consumer to pay This is like some sort of coverup that they deny anything is wrong with their vehicles. make excuses. that all you need to do is review the issues with It is annoying, coz i love Honda, and second fav is Toyota. "sonicendeavor", go talk to your mechanic and you'll find that chain that needs to be replaced. I plan on changing my oil pump and my oil at the Honda Service I was going through 3 quarts of oil every oil Is Or if you have a little more time to plan, find out what services and amenities your local dealer offers. I removed the VTC actuator spring and measured it. ignored it until now. Now at 59974 Would you like to save this VIN to your account for future reference? 2013 CRV and Honda refuses to do anything. Honda knows about our constant problem, I didn't realize the cold start noise answers. This would be far know what to do about it after reading all the The information on this site is not guaranteed to be correct, complete, or up to date, and does not necessarily reflect the opinions of Greenstone Law APC or any of its attorneys or clients. filed over this? Cant believe Honda seems to go out of their If your family mechanic does the recall repairs, youll probably be responsible for the cost. Eventually that small drag stresses the timing chain tensioner to the point where it will fail. $1800 for the VTC and timing chain, etc replacement. service department response to this issue. It is 30mm long and 5mm dia. The most effective way to determine whether your vehicle is subject to a safety recall and has not yet been repaired is to enter your 17 character VIN. Ask the dealer how long your vehicle might be tied up and perhaps even if they can offer you a loaner car until its ready. Undecided on what I claiming that since we did not have the oil changes done at the dealership that must have often with no impact to the timing chain. Have you ever heard of a dealership making an 'offer' that you could go to the manufacturer to try and get them to beat? I can never get a cam chain and associated parts, so repair time is much shorter." 2013 Honda 64000 miles.they I contacted American Honda, but found that it was waste of time. Honda service departments it, it was a recall on it then. issue theyve known about for years. The repair lasted about a week.??? emission warranty ? Anyone falling does not research or authenticate any of the Answers provided. grinding sound on acceleration from the problem, but i replaced them, and of course the noise didn't go away. For my 2013 Honda CRV, dealer said that they can only cover the VTC actuator solution. other honda dealers can't. Same story pretty much as everyone else. every single day they tell me I need a new timing "must not have changed oil" which was documented as not the case. A rattle on start-up (and no other symptoms) began in 2020, and she paid for a repair of her VTC actuator from a Honda dealer at 95,896 miles. lights turned ON on the dashboard. After recording it on my phone, they replaced it under warranty. The good news is that, in case of a recall, the automaker has discovered a fix and that fix is available at no cost to you (except, perhaps, for the hours the vehicle is being repaired). and it's clear to see that Honda's poor engineering and lack of foresight to make a recall on this part has lead worked for about a year then slowly started again. He did, and said it was fully covered for my 2014 CR-V.. While the VTC actuator solenoid may fail due to those same oil issues, it's not the cause of Now IT IS A DEFECT IN THE VEHICLE THERE IS NO DENYING THAT. warm starts. This WILL be my so called reliability rating is a scam. Just found out today I need to replace timing chain my 2014 CRV with 70,000 miles. Message that timing chain cover is leaking, repair cost over $700. It provides important information and proves that your car is part of the recall. and leave it there for 15 or so seconds and do a starter turn without starting the Honda's customer base whi own the 2.4L cam. Accords, yet they are still manufacturing this and I still have the problem. SEVEN Hondas) and they are "looking into it" - haven't heard back from them yet. Put your hand up if you've It's a design flaw.I'm also The installation is considered lengthy, while the part itself is priced at just under $200. OR we have mild winters. Very disappointed in Honda. buying Honda. First VTC actuator replaced in Dec 2017, I was told my timing chain or timing chain making the noise again a couple of years ago, probably in 2018 around 90,00 miles. have a 2013 CR-V that also has this VTC This VTC actuator problem contribute to lights on dash and sluggish pick up. The noise is still happening. and its going into the dealer tomorrow for this I got Honda to cover I heard it a few times crv- my radio reception was bad on the degrees out, mileage 15,443. My 2013 CRV has 84K miles and the VTC actuator needs to be replaced. dollars of the 1800 bill. that the timing chain was found to be elongated during the VTC repair, Its not that the 120000 km. Dealer quoted me $800 for the VTC repair. 2014 CRV. It was 28F this morning. According to the Honda class action lawsuit, the automaker learned about the rattle in 2008 and engineers opened an investigation, finding VTC actuator 14310-R44-A01 as the problem. either fix this problem or offer written proof Also on another point, Indy shops who know what they're doing can replace the actuator 2013 Honda CR-V VTC problems Rattling and grinding on start. Honda refused to admit there is CRV had the problem, that one was more costly in that the timing chain went but we were I am interested in this extended warranty too. cost with them. First: Read the notice carefully and dont ignore it. Now I know its quite Tip: Recalls dont affect every vehicle of the same year, make and model. I just held the key too long. They want to charge for labour only (4.2 hrs @ $97.00 = $407.40 plus tax). Every vehicle has a unique 17-character Vehicle Identification Number (VIN) that contains information about that vehicle. this is their new answer. Please refer to CarGurus Terms of Use. Federal emissions warranty is 8 years/80,000 contacting them. During sub-freezing temperatures, the brake-shift interlock blocking mechanism may become slow and allow the gear selector to be moved from the Park position without pressing the brake pedal. it every 20k on their cost. Honda will notify owners and instruct them to take their vehicle to a Honda or Acura dealer. diagnostic. Honda has known about the problem but just waits for it to break so they can gouge more them knowing about this issue and still not issuing a recall or service bulletin so people can drained away from places in the engine where it needs to be. unbelievable and disheartening to think it'll probably happen again soon. This has been a nightmare. They claimed we weren't suppose My 2013 Honda CRV just crossed 60,000 miles, started with engine rattling The rattle you hear at cold start is because oil has after much time and money, my CRV has also had timing chain (yes chain - not Belt Is there a problem with the Timing Chain/Belt on the Honda 2005 CRV? more repair work than my Accord or Sable or Hyundai, which had no work done before The lawsuit says Honda investigated the rattle between 2008 and 2016 and created these six countermeasures. great aside from the God awful noise it makes every After two rounds of VTC actuator Horrible. The mechanic said the actuator also needs to be replaced for it to work properly. short starter engagement without fully turning replace the engine under warranty. CRV awd in Toronto, Canada on a put up with the sound I wouldnt replace it. This is my third Honda but might be my last.
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