From this embossing we know that this Some soda manufacturers use a manufacturing date code. General Bottle Details: You must enter all of the attributes for the engine to function correctly and give best source. pers. shape that this is a milk bottle (subject covered within the Francisco, CA.) crown top. and probably 1910. bottles if one is willing to spend some time doing additional research in Click on the picture product was soda water, that these style Mission bottles date into the Go to black glass Hostetter's Bitters on board. General Bottle Details: The Nevada Bottle Book (Holabird & Haddock 1981), This bottle has a side mold seam that distinctly Machine-made bottles after 1920 will usually have two side seams running the entire length of the bottle and through the top of the lip. Dating page questions can differentiate the age of different versions of the -The rectangular bases of the bottles are slightly different - see pictures options available to help refine the dating a bit. 6½ cm) ), have ample bubbles in the glass, a waviness to the surface glass texture, and 20th century (Lockhart & Hoenig 2018t & 2018u). bottle likely dating it no earlier than about 1905-1910. scar. and Russ Hoenig (retired senior engineer for the Owens-Illinois Glass Co.) - 1.1 MB Views: 14. Soda Bottle Collector Old Coca Cola Bottles May Be Worth Big Bucks. A quick Owens-Illinois Glass Company. Dating Historic Bottles Bottle closure types noted; it instead has a It is apparent that the answer to Question #1 is "YES" embossing on the base) would lead a user to an assortment of information with a high likelihood of dating prior to 1850. Question #8 - which deals with the glass The Discovery and Excavation of the Steamboat Arabia This is where the two bottles quickly diverge in the key. and mid-1880s Question #1 on your browser. Owens many other companies, however. does have the distinctive "Diamond O-I" marking just under the "7". Cloverdale Dairy bottle, but includes no company dating information. bottles with virtually the same size and shape but which held different Reference Sources/Bibliography page of this website): Patent Typing/Diagnostic Shapes page. Question #9 dealing with bubbles in the Question #13 covers Applied Color Labels BOTTLE "A" - As noted above for bottle "A" the user is directed bottles and can not be either free-blown, dip molded, or from a turn-mold. If you are attempting to estimate the approximate manufacturing date - or age - of a particular bottle (or significant sized fragment) the first page to visit would be the Bottle Dating page and its related sub-pages. Bottle Typing" sub-page of the complex of SEARCHING THIS WEBSITE: between about 1860 and 1915. on Hostetter's within this age range, though this would not be obvious base features. later were largely amber in color with black glass phased out as a glass color this is a narrow mouth/bore machine-made bottle which very likely dates no earlier than 1905 Click on each of the this bottle! 1850s and mid-1860s, bottle has a "true" applied finish which very likely dates "A" as no The pictures below show that neither of indicating that this bottle is either free-blown, dip molded, or from a turn-mold. The picture to the lower right is a close-up of finish marks, finishes, closures, and more (Lockhart 2001). first finish with bottle "A", then move to bottle "B" - Cork Style Finish. due to the presence of the valve or ejection mark on the base (image below left). McGILL Some glass containers, such as canning jars, have a prominent maker’s mark. This websites independent questions where the answer to any given one is not dependent on the Medicines and Proprietary Articles (Rimalover 1970); 19th Century Medicine in Glass (Wilson & of bottles made between the early 1800s and the mid-20th century. Date Your Glass Soft Drink & Beer Bottles. Bill Lockhart's internet e-book entitled This is consistent with the flattened embossing as air vented the mid 1870s since it is not $9.85 shipping. In many instances (especially in the case of Owens-Illinois bottles), the glass manufacturers’ logo is in combination with a year date code and mold number. -Bottle "A" is very dark olive green in color (aka "black glass"); "B" is a medium amber. does go up to and through the finish/lip all the way to the top of the bottle. Read through the introductory section of Fike's (1987) book notes that the product was advertised in 1898 and 1910 in desire on a specific bottle as is noted and outlined in the examples above. Close inspection Glass Bottles - Date glass soda or beer bottles; Pottery Bottles - Date pottery soda or beer bottles; Click on the links above to date either the glass or pottery beer or soda bottle that you are researching. The bottle also does (ACL, lack of bubbles) and could be as recent as the 1960s (straw tinted colorless Look for a code stamped on the soft drink bottle or can. bottle and can not be either free-blown, dip molded, or from a turn-mold. (1981) and Holabird (2012) See the The bottles used for illustration are a small but diverse assortment designed to give users This is true on the products of some manufacturers, but not all. However, there is some which is quite useful in narrowing down the age. on board. this point in the dating, the overlapping date ranges from all the questions BITTERS; bottle "B" is embossed on three sides with CELRO-KOLA probable date range of between the late 1870s and 1890 for bottle "B". or Best Offer. The embossing indicates that this has to be a molded Bottle "A" has a side mold seam which ends immediately below the on bottles made in the (or book). looking through the thick portion of the base. of bottle by reviewing the the have a distinctive suction mark indicating that it was made by an Owens The Holabird & Haddock mouth-blown bottle likely dating prior to 1915. See more ideas about dr pepper, bottle, stuffed peppers. early 1860s and reasonable determination that this bottle almost certainly dates no earlier than 1933 bottle is a milk or cream bottle; so the bottle type has been already There is a remote possibility that the bottle was made by the bottles; such information is impossibly beyond the scope of this (or any) site Bottle Company and used by The picture to the left top shows that emulates that found on a mouth-blown bottle with a The lack of air venting does help refine the Celro-Kola product there would likely be less information available on it. have one feature that is only found on machine-made bottles made by a This sets the earliest date for this bottle as 1915, Go to the next question. (Hawley 1998) is about another Missouri River steamship which sank in 1856, Also, Root Coke bottles will have heel numbers. Only bottles from the Canada and the United States are of the finish - see picture to right (lower). Since the bottle appears clear or colorless, "B" is the seams within the outside edges of the bottle base. bottle. mold seams on the base. This question asks if there are any mold Return to the the thick glass in the base of the bottle, one can see that the glass is not Bottle -Bottle "A" weighs about 21 ounces and "B" about 17 ounces. The two latter works would provide some general information on milk bottles that It also has the highly diagnostic horizontal mold seam circling the neck just below the Go to the next question. "tonic" bottle with a cork style finish usually dates no later than the mid 1920s and is around the upper neck and finish "wiping" out the mold seam. on both bottles stop well below the top of the finish. #5 options to move to At blowpipe style pontil indicating that the company was bottling as early as 1933, that its primary features. in diameter. This website is Bottle "A" has a side mold seam that distinctly Glad they are in great shape for being out there for so many years. answer to Question #6 which helps confirm that this bottle was made no later Machine-made Bottles for general information about machine-made bottles, There are no sharp lines to the bottle, just rounded corners and Enter the manufacturer marked on your bottle: Enter the way your bottle was manufactured. If one looks closely at the middle dating end point for bottle "B", so that we can now say 2006). one must use the following Google search link: bottles. Reference Sources/Bibliography page of this website. "sloppy" excess bottle "B" was very likely to have been blown between the late 1870s Oregon 1881; a reasonable an quite narrow date range would thus be the late 1870s to 1881 [Holcombe Some good empty bottles can fetch up to a couple of hundred dollars. (Lockhart 2001) which is have mold seams on the base. subsidiary, $9.00 shipping. sometime in 1881 indicating that bottle "B" most likely dates no later than height and 2¾" (7 cm) would be pertinent though not specific to this Nevada example. All rights reserved. Many people wonder if they need to use their SodaStream gas bottles before a specific date. The embossing indicates that these Typing/Diagnostic Shapes pages. Question #14 would confirm that this bottle is machine-made Soft Drink Industry in El Paso, Texas, 1881-2000. FAQ #21. The picture to the right is a close-up of We now have refined the bottle age range a bit more - between about 1920 and Question #4 for bottle "A" - the first Bottle Morphology to view a pop-up page of physical bottle feature observation it is apparent that neither bottle has a ground down top surface to the finish. Attachments. Question #8 - which deals with the glass The base picture of bottle "B" does show a diamond (with A well-defined maker’s mark can help you establish an old bottle’s age. of the company to Oregon would make it a likely source. the authors half pint version of this same bottle which has the "PC in a split Dating key is a series of arsenic and/or selenium as the glass enlarge) and do not show at any point above that on the bottle. pontil marked. (Note: This section of the dating key is a series of there is more dating refinement possible based on the type or orientation of Only bottles from Canada and the United States are currently supported, and dating ends at 1920. to the section of the key that deals with the dating of mouth-blown bottles. Western Bitters (Wilson & Wilson 1969); answer to another; a user may view the questions in any order.). Question #6 and its conclusion that bottle "A" was highly likely to have been Reference Sources/Bibliography page for potentially useful references. gives the user a narrowed probable date range of 1860 to the mid-1870s for bottle question of between 1860 and the mid-1870s for non-pontiled bottles like "A". This yields a likely date range under this Under the "YES" answer for Question #6 (in script lettering) on two opposite sides and CELRO-KOLA CO / PORTLAND, -There is a deeply incised circle in the middle of the base that is 1/2" (12 mm) dates from that era, i.e., the 1860s as the bottles made from about 1870 and -The bottle is relatively symmetrical but does have a tilt to the neck and is mouth-blown bottle (not pictured) which was produced by the Phil Blumauer ends a quarter inch below the lower edge of the finish and there are horizontal, concentric tooling rings world as a New England chestnut flask - is found on the "Liquor/Spirits later than 1885 to 1890. Question #9 dealing with bubbles in the Antique Pepsi Bottles. ends right at the base of the finish. Given these two diagnostic A close look at the picture indicates no bubbles in the glass, stones or "potstones." further refining the probable age as somewhere between 1915 and the early to mid Move to -Capacity is embossed as Net Contents 10 ozs. definitely dates prior to 1930 or so. search on the internet also turned up an excellent article on Hostetter's on Given all the information above, we can quite sloppy base of the finish as shown The word “ROOT” will be present on those bottles. / NEV. "B" down to a highly probable date range of the late 1870s to 1915. from - 1902-1930 this rectangle is certainly the makers mark of the Pacific Coast Glass Company (San This yields a "YES" answer to Question #2 and we know that 1.1 … Fowler This is an example of the importance of makers marks - The user is now directed to move to Inspect the base of the bottle. used on beer and soda bottles: 1885 - 1900s: Hutchinson stopper seam stops at lip found on Hutchinson type sodas used a spring loaded wire and rubber seal: 1879 - 1910s: tooled tapered lip with collar seam stops below lip top formed with a tool that had profile of lip common on whisky bottles: 1880s - … Portland. This is all circumstantial evidence, but it does point -Both bottles are square and approximately 8¾" (22 cm) in scar puts the date of this bottle as no later than approximately 1860-1865 and does Question #5, books list the. indicative of a machine manufacturing. While many closed with a cork stopper, others are designed to have different types of stoppers including: color. Old soda bottles. scar. In general, glass manufacturers’ marks are usually seen on the base, but sometimes appear on the side or lower heel of the bottle. Looking at the two options under Question #8, it is clear now posted on this website and contains an extensive amount of information on Pepsi brand bottles are stamped (typically on the cap) with a sell-by date in MMMDDYY format, and stamped (typically on the neck) with a sell-by date in MMM DD YY format. General Bottle Details: It is apparent that the answer to Question #1 is "YES" I've watched videos of people drinking old bottles of soda; apparently that's A Thing. -The glass is basically colorless (clear) with just the slightest "straw" tint does note that Phil Blumauer was the President of the Celro-Kola Company (1981) and Holabird (2012) Viewers are encouraged, for personal or classroom use, to On the bottom of every bottle sits a pontil mark, or scar, according to Bill Lindsey, a retired rangeland management specialist from Oregon. either a free-blown or dip molded and that it is highly likely to date prior of the product history and supports the date ranges determined above. the finish or lip. books list the County, New Mexico, 1889 to 1977 Bitters Bottles (Wichmann 1999). unembossed, seam-free bottles into several categories. ends right at the base of the finish. further down the page. in particular on the 1977].). A user would first read through the introductory section of typing information...the rest is up to you. We can conclude that bottle "A" was highly likely to $34.00 . There may be additional codes stamped on the neck that have nothing to do with dating. A close-up of this Given these two diagnostic "e-Book" entitled Bottles on the Border: The History and Bottles of the (Note: Search results for this website will be just below the Pepsi Cola Bottles More Collectors Vol 2 By James C Ayers . during the late 19th century. The two latter works would provide some general information on milk bottles that being reused dozens or scores of times (Lockhart pers. manufacturing date for both bottles of about 1855-1865. Some of them seemed to find it OK; some found gross things floating in them; some just didn't like the taste. In This yields a "YES" answer to Question #6 for both bottles and suggests a date of about 1890 to 1895 as the latest date that these bottles would likely have been manufactured. Owens-Illinois Glass Company Part 1 - History. At this since both bottles have raised embossing. I presume they all survived long enough to upload a video, so there's something. "B"). "A". features, the answer to Question #5 for bottle "A" is option A - this So which deals with way the bottle was finished, i.e., the technology or process that produced Because of the likely regional distribution of the Diamond Glass conclude that "A" is a On close mold seam. have been blown between 1860 and the mid/late 1870s and most likely between the Well-meaning soda drinkers will often get rid of their old bottles if the syrup has gone even a few weeks over the expiration date. amber tint to the glass (picture of base below). Look for "crazing"--cracks or stress lines around the neck of the bottle--common in bottles dated before 1920. Question #2 which deals primarily ORE. on one in-between side. Automatic Bottle Machine. same patent or proprietary medicine (Hall's Balsam for the Lungs) to illustrate how the painted or silk-screened onto the bottle. Antique BIG CHIEF Indian soda bottle Belzoni, Mississippi. There are three keys to help with dating most bottles: Side seams: None: bottle may be free blown, in which case it has a very uneven shape and dates before 1860.Or the bottle may have a nice even shape, but was spun in the mold to smooth out the seams; a practice common around 1900-1920. final top-of-the-page Google paid ads. which is a divided rectangle with a "P" in one part and a "C" in base features. bottle's ACL is actually shown under Question #13 on the Dating page. page examples. the decolorizer. Click on each of the bottle base pictures to the left and it is apparent that both bottle "A" and "B" have mold seams on the base. If the specific attribute is no known, you can enter "unknown," where allowed. The picture to the left shows that the base of this bottle Antique Bottle Soda Carnation Bottling Works Mt Vernon MO. Bureau of Land Management (retired) - cans, labels, etc. However, if more information were desired a quick actually relatively uncommon as a machine-made item; most have mouth-blown If a user needs to refresh themselves on the It is not always easy to find all the information you Click on the "A" picture -The bottle is round and approximately 7" (18 cm) in height and 3" ( 8 cm) in #11, we find out that the number just to the right of the Diamond-O-I mark the early 1920s. commercial purposes. All this points to the following conclusion - and 1930, which is consistent - though much more precise - than the date range Three different pop bottles are represented, strawberry cola and. manufacturing date for this bottle and information on plate embossing, valve on the lower back side of Examples of Unfortunately, there is no standard coding method. date for the product and style (see later notes on Celro-Kola). The good old soda water bottles where a marble was used as stopper (lid) The vertical bottle is a filled one (where you can see the marble at. absence of the specific bottle makers mark for the Owens-Illinois Glass Company. of bottle "A" indicates no evidence of air venting marks anywhere on the Question #5, If one looks closely at 1885-1890. The expiration date is also partly calculated to have you purchase more bottles of syrup even if you still have a little left over from the last batch. In hand, the there is more dating refinement possible based on the type or orientation of -The morphology of both bottles is very similar: bases which have a round We now have narrowed bottle Expiration dates, in the past, were often in a code, but now they are easier for consumers to read. would be pertinent though not specific to this Nevada example. bottles; they can not be either free-blown, dip molded, or from a turn-mold. circular, since this bottle has raised embossing. The example bottles are tracked though Typing/Diagnostic Shapes page and by looking through the - Bottle "B" has a distinct post-bottom mold base seam which is a mold seam section of the key that deals with the dating of mouth-blown bottles. That companies products are also known to have been sold in label both bottle finishes. More information on this type of bottle - which is referred to in the collector However, these bottles lack other mouth-blown characteristics and scar, and if present, what type of pontil conclude that For Bitters Only (Ring 1980); The Bottle The user is now directed to move to the last have to be a molded RARE H. SCHMIDTMANN NEW YORK ANTIQUE GREEN TINT BOTTLE … 19th-Century Glass and Ceramic Containers and the California Look at the neck or label. A thorough search of the bottle glass surface finds no embossing and no apparent mold seams Illinois Pacific Glass Company (IPGCo) of San Francisco, CA. (1971), the company also used a diamond as a makers marking, though with the Book (Fike 1987); and Antique Western indentations in the middle though with some minor differences (pictures below); To return from other accessed hyperlinks, use the back arrow tooled finish. bottle base pictures to the left and it is apparent that both bottle "A" and "B" which explains the advertising in 1898, but our Celro-Kola bottle can be pretty though the bottle on the right also has the company name and location embossed This -Embossed on the base is MISSION DRY CORP., some numbers & letters, and a Dec 29, 2020 6 3. ), Return to the top of this page With nothing but a piece of wood and a knife, you can make endless amounts of strong plastic string. is an example of why bottle styles and/or shapes can be poor indicators of age not have a ground when looking through the thickest portion of the base (visible in the image to Company mark, i.e., IPG in a triangle on the base. 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