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July 15, 2016 HmmBaseball Reference.com is usually beyond redoubt, but I would say with almost unimpeachable certainty that Mickey Lolich weighed somewhere in the vicinity of 240 by the time he was huffing and puffing his way up the pitchers mound at Shea in 1976.Another awful trade, courtesy of M. Donald Grant, who couldn't wait to run Rusty Staub (coming off a team-record setting 105 RBI season) out of town, weeks after Mrs. Payson passed away. Mets history broken down into ten-year chunks! Theatrical performances, medicinal, musical, religious and other acts. Lolich won complete games in Games 2 & 5 and faced and beat Gibson and the St. Louis Cardinals in Game 7 by the score of 4-1 as the Tigers won the World Championship. Five years before he became a Met, Lolich threw for 376 innings! Five years before he became a Met, Lolich threw for 376 innings! The Staub trade was ridiculous but not Lolich's fault. And of course Lolich did not want to be here, and the fans did not want him here either, so I am sure that's why he skipped town the next year. Lolich's main purpose was to pitch and he couldn't even do that for us. The Tigers had some great years back in the late 60's and early 70's- much like the Mets. There were some games where the Mets did not give him support. The Lolich for Rusty Staub trade might be the first and only trade where two players who were well known for food establishments were traded for each other. He told the New York Press, he pitched with his head and arm not his abdomen. These kit cottages were sold by Lake Orion Lumber. I'll start with full disclosure: I was (and still am) bitter that the Mets gave up one of my favorite players, Rusty Staub, to get Lolich-- who was well past his prime. Lolich pitched fairly well with the Mets, in fact I recall a 2-0 shutout at Shea he pitched against the Cardinals in about two hours. Usually a bad trade doesn't reveal itself as bad until later when the player that came clearly is not working out. Lolich was a fine pitcher. As for all the innings Lolich pitched in Detroit, in today's game 300 innings is comparable to two full seasons, what with pitch counts and constantly babying starting pitchers. But in his final season with the Tigers, he became the all-time leader in strikeouts for left-handed pitchers. GoMets2006 170 pounds, maybe not but here's a fact: hurled 376 innings in the early 70's. No contest. According to his profile above, his height and weight are listed as follows:Height: 6.01 Weight: 170170 pounds on a 6 ft. 1 in. However, Mets management, in their infinite wisdom, wanted to trade Rusty Staub so badly, that they were willing to get anything in return, and actually had to go to great lengths to convince Lolich to come to the Mets. Dianna Jeanneh Jones March 2, 2003 Bartolo Colon etc). Koufax would have 175 by the All-Star Break. As Sonny Jurgenson once said "you don't throw the ball with your stomach." He had a 2.59 ERA at the end of July. Well, I never realized that Rusty Staub was such a favorite in New York, beside the old Tigers announcer George Kell always making a fuss over Rusty Staub's New York restaurant. Mickey Lolich did not do too bad with the Mets, He just did not get the The Staub trade was ridiculous but not Lolich's fault. Koufax would have 175 by the All-Star Break. Maudlin, anecdotal sentiment at its best! Too bad we waited until '76 to bring him in, although his numbers indicated a lack of run support. Jim Snedeker Shari In this World Series, Lolich pitched three complete games and allowed only five runs an ERA of 1.67. End of Line February 28, 2003 And complaining about how fat he was? Lolich - donuts Staub - steak.The food metaphor of trading a steak for a donut is accurate in this and many Mets trades.Would love to see a book written with lists and analysis of all Mets trades. The two 13-inning games didn't even count for complete games because they went 15 innings! Mickey did a few good games with the Mets as well as a couple shutouts. Rusty played another decade. Mickey liked his doughnuts. Three bad starts on 8/3 and 8/13 as well as his next to last start on 9/15 is what really bloated his ERA, not that 3.22 even in the '70s was that shabby.Yes, he was far removed from his prime but to say he sucked is pretty short sighted and flies in the face of the fact that he pitched well enough to be a 12-15 game winner, but then this is the same year Seaver pitched Cy Young caliber ball and went only 14-11. NO WAY he was 170 pounds. Man, those pitches were big ones. Randy Tate He had terrific stuff. Raymond Malcuit Jr. There were many different boats delivering and giving tours around early 20th century. In his first full season 1964, Mickey Lolich went 18-9 an ERA of 3.26. Lolich struck out more American League hitters than any other lefty in the history of baseball- that includes Randy Johnson, etc. Lolich was still productive but he was never accepted in New York because of whom he was traded for. Lolich - donuts Staub - steak.The food metaphor of trading a steak for a donut is accurate in this and many Mets trades.Would love to see a book written with lists and analysis of all Mets trades. March 18, 2001 He had a 2.59 ERA at the end of July. to realizing he was one of the worst trades in Mets history, before Seaver went to the Reds. October 4, 2006 February 25, 2003 MLB.TV Watch & Listen Archives . "We're tickled to death.". Baseball burnt him out. I'm still not clear - he traded Mickey Lolich to improve team speed? Mickey liked his doughnuts. December 20, 2019 ''How devoted those people are to the ballplayers! September 29, 2007 Joe Shari Ramblin' Pete April 24, 2003 I don't know if Mickey belongs in Cooperstown but he sure deserved more than 25% of the vote which was his highest showing. December 13, 2007 I don't know if Mickey belongs in Cooperstown but he sure deserved more than 25% of the vote which was his highest showing. October 2, 2005 body would be a pretty slender person. October 19, 2011 Mickey pitched almost 200 innings in 76, gave up less hits than innings and his era was in the low 3.00's. Lolich won complete games in Games 2 & 5 and faced and beat Gibson and the St. Louis Cardinals in Game 7 by the score of 4-1 as the Tigers won the World Championship. Al Ramblin' Pete As somebody mentioned previously, this is really all Mike Vail's fault. Mickey Lolich is one of my favorite players. March 5, 2006 Believe me if he pitched like the ace he was in Detroit no one here would have been so quick to criticize the trade. But what can you expect when the team only averaged 3.4 runs for Seaver per start and 3.3 for Lolich? Jamey Bumbalo It would appear that the one party who was jobbed in the deal was Lolich himself. You have to remember that any ERA of 3.00 and over back in the 1970's was not a good stat. Mike B Mickey Lolich captured the sporting headlines in 1968 by upstaging Hall of Famer, Bob Gibson, in the World Series. Mickey Lolich is one of my favorite players. That would make him a star in today's market. Ok, the height is correct but make no mistake,a consistent, determined winner, Mickey Lolich was in the spotlight throughout his career. October 2, 2005 He made the all- star team 3 times, led the AL in wins once, shutouts once, complete games once, innings once, strikeouts once, and losses TWICE.He finished second (1971) and third (1972) in the Cy Young race, and he never finished higher than TENTH PLACE in the league in ERA (finished tenth in both 1971 and 1972).Baseball Reference lists among his top ten in similarity scores: Jerry Koosman, Jerry Reuss, Rick Reuschel, Luis Tiant, Vida Blue, and Joe Niekro.All of that tells me Lolich in his prime was a good pitcher, but nowhere near a HOFer. (And of course Donald Grant) The Mets had to fill 2 corner outfield spots and first base. Once the Tigers won in 84 I gave up on having a 2nd favorite because their win did nothing for me. Mickey Lolich did not pitch badly for the Mets in 1976. April 23, 2003 Then Vail hurt his ankle playing Basketball and he was never the same. In his first three seasons, he compiled a 17-29 record in 82 games. Mickey Lolich was the greatest left handed pitcher in the whole world to me in 1968, He was even greater than Denny. And by the time he left Detroit, he was fatter than Lolich. And complaining about how fat he was? Mickey liked his doughnuts. You can't be serious. He was a big (emphasis: BIG) bust in New York. Randy Tate Mickey Lolich was the greatest left handed pitcher in the whole world to me in 1968, He was even greater than Denny. But this one defied all logic from the beginning. My memory is that while the Mets' front office had made dumb and abysmal trades in the past, this was one that just made no sense in any way, shape, or form. Births, Deaths, Transactions, Newspaper Covers. I used to think that Lolich sucked with the Mets, but after reviewing his stats and starts from that year, he was a damn effective #4 starter. I still have it somewhere. Mr. Sparkle Joe was hit by a Bob Moose pitch to drive in the tying run, but the '76 Mets couldn't stand such success, as two singles and a double play grounder by future Mets coach Bill Robinson in the top of the 10th off Skip Lockwood gave the Bucs a 2-1 win. Its not Rustys fault the Tigers traded for hitting when they already had hitting. But I have to say, I laughed out loud when I saw his physical statistics on this site. Lolich was a good one, underrated and dominating at times. mets Staub was one of our heroes and for the Mets to trade him for a guy that owned and operated (and apparently ate often at) donut shops in the off season was gut wrenching. snook I'll start with full disclosure: I was (and still am) bitter that the Mets gave up one of my favorite players, Rusty Staub, to get Lolich-- who was well past his prime. June 2, 2006 My memory is that while the Mets' front office had made dumb and abysmal trades in the past, this was one that just made no sense in any way, shape, or form. He went undrafted in the 2013 NFL Draft but was picked up as a free agent by the Cowboys. March 22, 2005 Dianna Jeanneh Jones March 22, 2005 No contest. support. Shickhaus Franks Take a look at his stats on baseball-reference and you will shake your head. However, I remember Lolich as being quite portly, so his true weight was a lot more than 170 pounds. But this one defied all logic from the beginning. Within a year, the corpulent Lolich had retired to open a doughnut shop in suburban Detroit. I'm still not clear - he traded Mickey Lolich to improve team speed? March 2, 2003 Ken Akerman Lolich won complete games in Games 2 & 5 and faced and beat Gibson and the St. Louis Cardinals in Game 7 by the score of 4-1 as the Tigers won the World Championship. SPONSORED. He also hit a home run in Game Two of the Series and outpitched Denny "31 Win" McClain in the Series. He made the all- star team 3 times, led the AL in wins once, shutouts once, complete games once, innings once, strikeouts once, and losses TWICE.He finished second (1971) and third (1972) in the Cy Young race, and he never finished higher than TENTH PLACE in the league in ERA (finished tenth in both 1971 and 1972).Baseball Reference lists among his top ten in similarity scores: Jerry Koosman, Jerry Reuss, Rick Reuschel, Luis Tiant, Vida Blue, and Joe Niekro.All of that tells me Lolich in his prime was a good pitcher, but nowhere near a HOFer. Stu Baron Two quick points that haven't been mentioned:- It was Mike Vail's fantastic debut that led the Mets to believe they had a replacement for Staub. December 13, 2007 Mickey Lolich did not do too bad with the Mets, He just did not get the April 23, 2003 Bob P According to his profile above, his height and weight are listed as follows:Height: 6.01 Weight: 170170 pounds on a 6 ft. 1 in. September 12, 2002 Lolich pitched fairly well with the Mets, in fact I recall a 2-0 shutout at Shea he pitched against the Cardinals in about two hours. McLain got all the publicity but Lolich got the wins in post season 1968. His era of 3.22 is only .09% more than 20-game winner Carlton for the Phils. His era of 3.22 is only .09% more than 20-game winner Carlton for the Phils. August 7, 2018 Let me say that again, 376 and that's without a pitch count. September 12, 2002 January 12, 2011 His not being elected to Cooperstown is a major oversight. senor ortiz He lost 39 games his last two seasons in Detroit, with an obese ERA both years. October 19, 2011 Lolich was a good pitcher in his prime - he won 3 games in the '68 Series vs. the Cardinals, including Game 7. I remember as a 11 year old when the Mets traded for him thinking "Great, we have Mickey Lolich! Usually a bad trade doesn't reveal itself as bad until later when the player that came clearly is not working out. Shari June 2, 2006 I wish the Mets had a pitcher today with a 3.22 ERA. When he was with the Mets, I gave him the name "TOO MUCH EATER" but then again the Orange and Blue has always had big boned hurlers (El Sid. Maudlin, anecdotal sentiment at its best! Well, I never realized that Rusty Staub was such a favorite in New York, beside the old Tigers announcer George Kell always making a fuss over Rusty Staub's New York restaurant. Baseball burnt him out. Now I have the opportunity not to do what I disliked seeing.''. Lolich committed to playing 2 years for the Mets, but then reneged on that promise. Usually a bad trade doesn't reveal itself as bad until later when the player that came clearly is not working out. April 23, 2003 Reading this brings back my memory of the trade that sent Rusty packing to Detroit. Usually a bad trade doesn't reveal itself as bad until later when the player that came clearly is not working out. This happened because M. Donald Grant, usurper/dictator of the New York Mets, was personally annoyed by Rusty Staub. Bartolo Colon etc). April 20, 2002 Later inserted into the rotation by manager Bob Scheffing, Mickey earned his first win May 28 in Los Angeles against the Angels, going the distance. But this one defied all logic from the beginning. Mickey Lolich so despised the Mets experience that he sat home and ate donuts for a year rather than play again in New York. John Bruce (With three lefties and a Seaver, the Mets were lefty killers) But the Mets needed hitting. April 6, 2012 But Don Grant was bananas, and he took the first decent offer he received. In San Diego they had a fan club for him called the Mickey Lolich Gut Club. So when your "inning eater" goes 220 and gets a bonus it's beyond comprehension. Mickey Lolich did not pitch badly for the Mets in 1976. There were some games where the Mets did not give him support. Feat Fan - Now for the trade itself. He may have left behind a fine legacy in Detroit but when he got to New York he stunk.You weren't happy with Rusty and we weren't happy with Lolich, so let's just call the trade a wash. Case closed. But what can you expect when the team only averaged 3.4 runs for Seaver per start and 3.3 for Lolich? And of course Lolich did not want to be here, and the fans did not want him here either, so I am sure that's why he skipped town the next year. It was the ultimate donut for the future donut-shop owner. eddiek He lost 39 games his last two seasons in Detroit, with an obese ERA both years. As somebody mentioned previously, this is really all Mike Vail's fault. support. Mickey was a fantastic pitcher for the Tigers. The Staub trade was ridiculous but not Lolich's fault. Michael Poor Met fans! Lolich won complete games in Games 2 & 5 and faced and beat Gibson and the St. Louis Cardinals in Game 7 by the score of 4-1 as the Tigers won the World Championship. August 7, 2002 He pitched over 300 innings for 4 years in a row, coming close to 400 one year. May 7, 2013 September 25, 2013 As a kid collecting baseball cards and watching ballgames in the '70s, I remember being struck by Lolich's belly. Mickey was at the tail end of his career when he came to the Mets. Anybody remember how Rusty looked those last few years in New York? He was overweight and kind of babyfaced but I don't remember anyone being more focused or a battler. They did not let him pitch the way he wanted. The point is he made a bad team worse. April 23, 2003 FREE SAME DAY DOMESTIC STANDARD SHIPPING on orders of $99.99 or more with coupon code "FREESHIP". Bobster1985 pete His three wins in the 1968 Series against the Cardinals were the apex of his career. support. When he was with the Mets, I gave him the name "TOO MUCH EATER" but then again the Orange and Blue has always had big boned hurlers (El Sid. He made the all- star team 3 times, led the AL in wins once, shutouts once, complete games once, innings once, strikeouts once, and losses TWICE.He finished second (1971) and third (1972) in the Cy Young race, and he never finished higher than TENTH PLACE in the league in ERA (finished tenth in both 1971 and 1972).Baseball Reference lists among his top ten in similarity scores: Jerry Koosman, Jerry Reuss, Rick Reuschel, Luis Tiant, Vida Blue, and Joe Niekro.All of that tells me Lolich in his prime was a good pitcher, but nowhere near a HOFer. October 19, 2011 I would put Rusty for Lolich in second place. 3.50 was more of a mediocre E.R.A in those days.About his profile of 6'1" and 170 lbs., I looked him up in the Baseball Encyclopedia and that's what they have. That would make him a star in today's market. He may have left behind a fine legacy in Detroit but when he got to New York he stunk.You weren't happy with Rusty and we weren't happy with Lolich, so let's just call the trade a wash. Case closed. Michael God bless him wherever he is and good luck! He goes up one notch for being a character! GoMets2006 snook Jamey Bumbalo I simply loved to see him walk onto the mound; I knew that we as a ball club would be a winner any time he pitched, but as they always say time moves on, but our memory is always around. To the guy who scored the game when Lolich gave up two homers to the no name pitcher- big deal? 170 pounds, maybe not but here's a fact: hurled 376 innings in the early 70's. The trade was a great one for the Tigers and yet another whopper in a long history of bad trades for the Mets. But dad could never pronounce his name right; he always called him "Yo-lich" no matter how many times we corrected him. August 7, 2018 Bartolo Colon etc). But I have to say, I laughed out loud when I saw his physical statistics on this site. Shickhaus Franks We are going all the way!" April 6, 2012 But what can you expect when the team only averaged 3.4 runs for Seaver per start and 3.3 for Lolich? December 20, 2019 Ken Akerman All of you New Yorkers are forgetting how the Tigers fared in this deal of Staub/Lolich. John, we know the condition the team was in when Lolich got here. bob saunders Max Power The Staub trade was ridiculous but not Lolich's fault. He had a 3/4 delivery that thrived on the weight shift. December 13, 2007 October 19, 2011 Larry Burns LA-Mets I agree with Doughnut Shoppe patron. November 12, 2006 John, we know the condition the team was in when Lolich got here. Mickey was a great pitcher but was not happy in New York. In that same year he went 13, 13, 12, 11 and 10 innings in 5 games. In one of his best games as a Met, hefty lefty Lolich (no doubt the prototype for David Wells), tossed 8 innings, allowing 8 hits and 2 walks while striking out 4, the only run scoring on a fourth-inning groundout by a young Dave Parker.Alas, with the Mets historically typical poor run support, Lolich left, trailing 1-0, for pinch hitter Mike Phillips, who fanned for the 2nd out of the ninth, before singles by Ed Kranepool (batting for Leon Brown) and Bruce Boisclair and a walk to John Milner loaded the bases for Joe Torre. Mike B I simply loved to see him walk onto the mound; I knew that we as a ball club would be a winner any time he pitched, but as they always say time moves on, but our memory is always around. Then they all got old and the team slid into rebuilding- different than the Mets? (And of course Donald Grant) The Mets had to fill 2 corner outfield spots and first base. John Bruce Joe was hit by a Bob Moose pitch to drive in the tying run, but the '76 Mets couldn't stand such success, as two singles and a double play grounder by future Mets coach Bill Robinson in the top of the 10th off Skip Lockwood gave the Bucs a 2-1 win. snook Take a look at his stats on baseball-reference and you will shake your head. Lolich finished his career 12th on the all-time strikeout list with 2,832, second only to Steve Carlton among left-handers. Mickey was a great pitcher but was not happy in New York. Did you boo him or make fun out of him? He never had much to say about Lolich's donut shop though. The Lolich for Rusty Staub trade might be the first and only trade where two players who were well known for food establishments were traded for each other. August 7, 2018 Maybe Rusty was not in his prime when the Tigers got him, but the man could still swing the bat. Talk show? They were starting their descent into oblivion and the Staub trade was step in that direction. The Lolich for Rusty Staub trade might be the first and only trade where two players who were well known for food establishments were traded for each other. Having this claim (in addition to his World Series MVP) is definitely worthy of the Hall of Fame. Five years before he became a Met, Lolich threw for 376 innings! As a kid collecting baseball cards and watching ballgames in the '70s, I remember being struck by Lolich's belly. senor ortiz He made the all- star team 3 times, led the AL in wins once, shutouts once, complete games once, innings once, strikeouts once, and losses TWICE.He finished second (1971) and third (1972) in the Cy Young race, and he never finished higher than TENTH PLACE in the league in ERA (finished tenth in both 1971 and 1972).Baseball Reference lists among his top ten in similarity scores: Jerry Koosman, Jerry Reuss, Rick Reuschel, Luis Tiant, Vida Blue, and Joe Niekro.All of that tells me Lolich in his prime was a good pitcher, but nowhere near a HOFer. 6'1", 170???? December 8, 2006 In this World Series, Lolich pitched three complete games and allowed only five runs an ERA of 1.67. Maybe when he was 15 years old he was 170, but at no point in his major league career was he ever 170. He had terrific stuff. Baseball burnt him out. Lolich committed to playing 2 years for the Mets, but then reneged on that promise. 3.50 was more of a mediocre E.R.A in those days.About his profile of 6'1" and 170 lbs., I looked him up in the Baseball Encyclopedia and that's what they have. The Staub trade was ridiculous but not Lolich's fault. My memory is that while the Mets' front office had made dumb and abysmal trades in the past, this was one that just made no sense in any way, shape, or form. NYB Buff Stu Baron Within a year, the corpulent Lolich had retired to open a doughnut shop in suburban Detroit. Baseball burnt him out. No contest. Mickey was a great pitcher but was not happy in New York. C'mon John, the Mets did the Tigers a huge favor by taking this washed-up pitcher off their hands and giving them a great hitter like Rusty. Feat Fan bob saunders August 11, 2015 senor ortiz We are going all the way!" body would be a pretty slender person. Thanks for the memories, Mick! We felt the same way when the Mets traded away Seaver and got back mediocre players for him. Mickey Lolich did not do too bad with the Mets, He just did not get the & N) 1889-1984. aka "Poor, Old & Neglected". He normally threw lots of pitches and completed a high percentage of his games. Really? He pitched very good ball for you. The last thing the Tigers needed was a dandy hitter whose hitting only went to support lopsided slugfest losses every day. There were some games where the Mets did not give him support. How Mickey still had an arm when he pitched for us is amazing. -He fought in the Civil War, wounded, then received a commission from President Abraham Lincoln. Lolich may have been a great pitcher once, but by 1976 he was a has-been. Five years before he became a Met, Lolich threw for 376 innings! Mickey was a great pitcher but was not happy in New York. Bob P Raymond Malcuit Jr. (And of course Donald Grant) The Mets had to fill 2 corner outfield spots and first base. etc. I'll start with full disclosure: I was (and still am) bitter that the Mets gave up one of my favorite players, Rusty Staub, to get Lolich-- who was well past his prime. March 22, 2005 Lolich was a good one, underrated and dominating at times. Koufax would have 175 by the All-Star Break. That would make him a star in today's market. September 25, 2013 According to his profile above, his height and weight are listed as follows:Height: 6.01 Weight: 170170 pounds on a 6 ft. 1 in. He has played in several PGA and Nationwide Tour events in the 1990s. Lolich hit a home run in the World Series- and so what does that mean, that he was a great hitter? TimesMachine is an exclusive benefit for home delivery and digital subscribers. He later came back to play for the Padres. No contest. In that same year he went 13, 13, 12, 11 and 10 innings in 5 games. body would be a pretty slender person. A Staub-Kingman combo would have provided more run support for big three, and probably a 90+ win season. After the shooting he served guard duty at the White House. Lolich pitched fairly well with the Mets, in fact I recall a 2-0 shutout at Shea he pitched against the Cardinals in about two hours. As Sonny Jurgenson once said "you don't throw the ball with your stomach." Lolich struck out more American League hitters than any other lefty in the history of baseball- that includes Randy Johnson, etc. The point is he made a bad team worse. Bob P Ken Akerman Lolich was still productive but he was never accepted in New York because of whom he was traded for. (thankfully returning in '81). Lolich pitched fairly well with the Mets, in fact I recall a 2-0 shutout at Shea he pitched against the Cardinals in about two hours. 170 lbs.? Lolich may be a legend in Detroit based on his 1968 World Series performance, but he was at the end of his career by 1976. April 23, 2003 Lolich was giving one of his typical awful performances in a Mets uniform. All of you New Yorkers are forgetting how the Tigers fared in this deal of Staub/Lolich. "It was a strange time to be playing football," he says over lunch. Too bad we waited until '76 to bring him in, although his numbers indicated a lack of run support. How Mickey still had an arm when he pitched for us is amazing. He had a 3/4 delivery that thrived on the weight shift. View + Cart. Let me say that again, 376 and that's without a pitch count. I don't know, I'm not a Mets expert. April 27, 2013 Usually a bad trade doesn't reveal itself as bad until later when the player that came clearly is not working out. The trade was a great one for the Tigers and yet another whopper in a long history of bad trades for the Mets. April 6, 2012 And yes, maybe Koosman had losing years in the late 70's but he had been a Met long enough with a winning record that the fans rooted for him. He started 45 games and completed 29. Lolich came within a batter of a complete game also. I'll start with full disclosure: I was (and still am) bitter that the Mets gave up one of my favorite players, Rusty Staub, to get Lolich-- who was well past his prime. support. Bartolo Colon etc). After one year in New York Lolich retired. Lolich - donuts Staub - steak.The food metaphor of trading a steak for a donut is accurate in this and many Mets trades.Would love to see a book written with lists and analysis of all Mets trades. Peter I don't know, I'm not a Mets expert. End of Line But this one defied all logic from the beginning. Bob P Really? He started 45 games and completed 29. Rusty has always been a fan favorite so if you're going to trade him it better be worth it, and to most of us Mets fans Lolich wasn't. Doug S. 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